Comments on: Is Nutritious Food Good Food? http://jloeats.com/2010/04/02/is-nutritious-food-good-food/ I live to eat and eat to live, so let's talk about it! Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:11:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: jlo http://jloeats.com/2010/04/02/is-nutritious-food-good-food/comment-page-1/#comment-136 jlo Thu, 27 May 2010 06:54:45 +0000 http://jloeats.com/?p=401#comment-136 ps - think about what the term 'pro-biotic' means -- isn't this just a marketed brand name for good live stuff - aka, good bacteria that we NEED? (post pasteurization or radiation where they kill off all bacteria, as a mass production food safe measure, and then fortify/add that shit back in... WHUT.. so funny) hence the huge fad with the kombuchas and fermented things lately (when really civilizations and cultures have been eating fermented things for centuries -- i.e. kim chee), and the huge push for grossly sweet yet completely fat free 'healthful' yogurts on the market now -- with extra 'probiotics' and none of the healthy milk fat or omega 3s we could be getting (vs. the overdose of omega 6s in our diet -- another post to come on that) mmhmm, everything is branded. even science. have u ever seen cut up packaged apples at like subway or mcdees? they have nutrition labels on those and i swear when u look at the label, it doesn't show much... but we all believe apples to be good for us ps – think about what the term ‘pro-biotic’ means — isn’t this just a marketed brand name for good live stuff – aka, good bacteria that we NEED? (post pasteurization or radiation where they kill off all bacteria, as a mass production food safe measure, and then fortify/add that shit back in… WHUT.. so funny)

hence the huge fad with the kombuchas and fermented things lately (when really civilizations and cultures have been eating fermented things for centuries — i.e. kim chee), and the huge push for grossly sweet yet completely fat free ‘healthful’ yogurts on the market now — with extra ‘probiotics’ and none of the healthy milk fat or omega 3s we could be getting (vs. the overdose of omega 6s in our diet — another post to come on that)

mmhmm, everything is branded. even science. have u ever seen cut up packaged apples at like subway or mcdees? they have nutrition labels on those and i swear when u look at the label, it doesn’t show much… but we all believe apples to be good for us

]]> By: jlo http://jloeats.com/2010/04/02/is-nutritious-food-good-food/comment-page-1/#comment-135 jlo Thu, 27 May 2010 06:46:55 +0000 http://jloeats.com/?p=401#comment-135 BOTH. it's up to you to decide, and that's the problem no? it always boils down to marketing and education... and then the problems go round dee round in terms of access to what we all define 'good' food to be, and who can or cannot afford it. there are a lot of problems with improper health claims based on scientific studies that loosely correlate diet with dsease prevention because fact of hte matter is how do you isolate what one nutrient does in the body? the scientific methods of inquiry do not account for cultural and lifestyle differences with diet and nutrition. and then you have to look at who is paying who to do these studies and who publishes what health claim under what label. my point is, food has become so scientific, like packaged science, and i don't like it. it's almost like sitting down to a meal prepared by your grandmother after a hard's day of work, and asking her "why is this good for me- prove it!" and she'll stare at you and smack you. saying "eat it anyway" cuz it's like questioning years of cultural experience. and since the generalized american diet varies so greatly amongst populations, companies simply pick the greatest niche market that they want to sell to, target them and hope for the best returns on investment. one should be wary of nutrition that is 'sold' to you - because anyone trying to make a living off of selling something is only looking out for themselves, no? ain't that business and econ 101? so then we are in the same position as consumers all over again. How do we decipher with the promise of free choice, what to buy? what to eat, and what is good? Especially when we know that deceit and deception stock the shelves, and "foodstuff" is marketed in a way that only promotes us to consume mooooorreeeee, it ain't so glamorous, huh? esp when our natural resources are not limitless, which is the greatest external cost and flaw to economic theories of the free market system. besides, what are BAD foods anyway? how do we define them within the bureaucracy? -- i.e. the new soda taxes in different states -- all the talk now is centered around trying to define what a 'sugary' beverage is, rather than, where is all that money going if we're talking about money?! i guess in the end, i am most interested in pushing other people's ideas about what their relationship to food is -- call me a rebel. because mine is changing every single day BOTH. it’s up to you to decide, and that’s the problem no?
it always boils down to marketing and education…
and then the problems go round dee round in terms of access to what we all define ‘good’ food to be, and who can or cannot afford it.
there are a lot of problems with improper health claims based on scientific studies that loosely correlate diet with dsease prevention because fact of hte matter is how do you isolate what one nutrient does in the body? the scientific methods of inquiry do not account for cultural and lifestyle differences with diet and nutrition. and then you have to look at who is paying who to do these studies and who publishes what health claim under what label. my point is, food has become so scientific, like packaged science, and i don’t like it.
it’s almost like sitting down to a meal prepared by your grandmother after a hard’s day of work, and asking her “why is this good for me- prove it!” and she’ll stare at you and smack you. saying “eat it anyway” cuz it’s like questioning years of cultural experience. and since the generalized american diet varies so greatly amongst populations, companies simply pick the greatest niche market that they want to sell to, target them and hope for the best returns on investment. one should be wary of nutrition that is ‘sold’ to you – because anyone trying to make a living off of selling something is only looking out for themselves, no? ain’t that business and econ 101? so then we are in the same position as consumers all over again. How do we decipher with the promise of free choice, what to buy? what to eat, and what is good? Especially when we know that deceit and deception stock the shelves, and “foodstuff” is marketed in a way that only promotes us to consume mooooorreeeee, it ain’t so glamorous, huh? esp when our natural resources are not limitless, which is the greatest external cost and flaw to economic theories of the free market system.

besides, what are BAD foods anyway? how do we define them within the bureaucracy? — i.e. the new soda taxes in different states –
all the talk now is centered around trying to define what a ‘sugary’ beverage is,
rather than, where is all that money going if we’re talking about money?!

i guess in the end, i am most interested in pushing other people’s ideas about what their relationship to food is — call me a rebel. because mine is changing every single day

]]> By: Diann Trayer http://jloeats.com/2010/04/02/is-nutritious-food-good-food/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Diann Trayer Wed, 26 May 2010 21:49:56 +0000 http://jloeats.com/?p=401#comment-134 <i>Was your prof referring to all nutritious foods, like fruits and veggies etc., or only engineered nutritious foods, such as vitamin enriched or pro-biotic type of deals?</i> +1 Was your prof referring to all nutritious foods, like fruits and veggies etc., or only engineered nutritious foods, such as vitamin enriched or pro-biotic type of deals?
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]]> By: Simon http://jloeats.com/2010/04/02/is-nutritious-food-good-food/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Simon Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:59:44 +0000 http://jloeats.com/?p=401#comment-126 Was your prof referring to all nutritious foods, like fruits and veggies etc., or only engineered nutritious foods, such as vitamin enriched or pro-biotic type of deals? Either way, I almost want to say there's no wrong answer. Like you said, it's subjective no? Was your prof referring to all nutritious foods, like fruits and veggies etc., or only engineered nutritious foods, such as vitamin enriched or pro-biotic type of deals?

Either way, I almost want to say there’s no wrong answer. Like you said, it’s subjective no?

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